Survival Gardening Part 4, economic collapse, peak oil, 2012

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Part 4 of our series on Survival Gardening covers the criteria necessary to select vegetable crops from a survival standpoint. Popular vegetable crops are critiqued from a survival gardening standpoint. As usual, various tips and instruction are given throughout the video including security issues relating to gardening post TSHTF, why raised beds might not be the best thing for survival gardening, how to save seeds and more. www.survivalreport.net www.homesteadingandsurvival.net tags- preparedness, survival, survivalist, homesteading, self reliance, self sufficiency, food storage, survival retreat, survival training, survival groups, AK47, AR 15, permaculture, organic gardening, gardening, sustainability, prepare for; war, famine, gas shortage, food shortage, economic collapse, nuclear war, end of oil, end times, prophecy, revelation, aliens, zombies, TEOTWAWKI

25 Responses to “Survival Gardening Part 4, economic collapse, peak oil, 2012”

  1. SurvivalReport says:

    @GailPCooke Keep trying, it does get easier with time and experience. Good luck!

  2. GailPCooke says:

    I tried a container garden this year and honestly, I apparently can’t grow a darn thing. *sigh*

  3. luvUtube247 says:

    OK…we get it…you don’t like corn!!
    Please stop repeating yourself
    Wasted valuable time we could learn how to tranport water for areas far away,
    How to keep bugs off planets, etc etc etc etc
    Thanks for posting SOME info tho

  4. SurvivalReport says:

    We just an online Survival and Preparedness Message board at
    SurvivalandPreparedness DOTCOM

    Feel free to stop by, learn and discuss survival and preparedness topics and meet others of like mind.

  5. buckstarchaser says:

    @oevzA1oL I wouldn’t have a disker if it was shoved up my ass…. But pigs don’t exactly seem ideal. I’ve raised chickens, but they are selective and die before stripping the land properly. I think I will need advice or some costly trial and error before I get it right… I have a property contracted for purchase but won’t likely be there until about august. By then I will have tall grass and an open playing field to start with. I’m wide open to ideas.

  6. oevzA1oL says:

    @buckstarchaser excuse my not being clearer. My recommendation instead of considering any petrol based solution (like disk harrows) first look to a nature based solution. You stated you were attempting to avoid equipment costs and I was offering an alternative to an industrial solution. The issue is we have been trained to look at things from an industrial standpoint instead of rethinking our approach. This is where a guy like Salatin offers good input, although there are others.

  7. buckstarchaser says:

    @oevzA1oL I’ve read the recommended book “gardening when it counts” and it changed my mind about planting in rows vs. blocks. What is it that you are recommending? I’m concerned that pigs would compress the ground a bit. Other than that I like bacon a lot.

  8. oevzA1oL says:

    @buckstarchaser, one thing to possibly consider is using a hog or two to ‘plow’ an area in the off season instead of requiring petrol based inputs. Joel Salatin and others cover this method but you need to watch a few of his videos and read whatever you can find published online to get a clearer picture of how it is done.

  9. buckstarchaser says:

    @SurvivalReport Ahh, thanks. I didn’t know that rabbits could get coccidiosis. The feed I gave my chickens was medicated for that but I’d like to avoid some outside inputs as well as not play room service to animal pens. I had a topless fence for my chickens and pretty much everything around came to kill them. I’m looking forward to trying chicken tractors… and possibly rabbit tractors but separated I guess.

    I ordered that gardening book you recommended and others. Thanks for the advice.

  10. SurvivalReport says:

    @buckstarchaser NEGATIVE, DO NOT MIX CHICKENS AND RABBITS. Rabbits can get coccsidious (sp) from chickens VERY EASILY. Do not let chickens roost near where rabbits are penned, etc.

    Easier thing would be to fence your garden areas and turn the chickens out into them when your harvest is over. They will scratch, eat bugs and crap everywhere. We have done that in the past but use goats currently in that role as we have had bu koo problems with stray dogs and cats and free range poultry.

  11. buckstarchaser says:

    @SurvivalReport I get the feeling that you’re going to make me test this out alone 😛 Hopefully I’ll find the right piece of land soon so I can get started. Since my goal is to not stay another winter in this house I’m not doing anything with this places yard. I’d also like to try out stripping gardens with chicken cages being dragged day by day over them… perhaps with rabbits sharing the cages to cover more feed items. Have you tried anything like this?

  12. SurvivalReport says:

    @SurvivalReport The disk helps with LARGER areas. For example, we garden about 3/4 of an acre total. When it’s not in garden the goats are in most of these areas foraging and FERTILIZING 🙂 The disk simply helps in soil prep and cuts down on LABOR TIME. Again I’m not talking about 3-4 cute little raised beds, I’m talking about a decent sized area that we need to grow most of our veggies for the year in. It’s a labor saver more than anything. Yes we have fuel and logistics in storage 🙂

  13. SurvivalReport says:

    @buckstarchaser Oh I get it 🙂 I think anyone that had 3rd grade history remembers that story from “the first Thanksgiving.” I planted inoculated soybeans in amongst corn a few times- I think their is some video of this here also- I wasn’t too impressed with the results. Corn is a very heavy feeder. We did some true “organic” corn last year. A VERY SMALL patch took ALL the manure from dozen rabbits, six hens and 2 goats.

    Never said you needed to have a disk harrow. Continued next post-

  14. buckstarchaser says:

    @SurvivalReport I am buying land this year. The equip I refer to is the disker. I’d like to avoid equipment cost outlay. With this 3 sisters indian thing they apparently bury an unwanted fish (I’m thinking rabbit guts) then build a small mound with a corn in the middle and ringed by beans and squash. Beans add nitrogen and climb corn, squash supresses weeds and holds moisture in the ground. But I think this makes disking pointless… but then the indians didn’t do that and they invented corn.

  15. SurvivalReport says:

    @buckstarchaser The “work involved” your not going to get around easily. Not sure what you mean by the “equip” involved since I don’t think we show any more equipment than maybe some rakes and shovels. You don’t need a disc harrow but for larger areas it certainly is helpful for soil prep. Now is the time to TRY all these things for yourself. You want to learn and make your mistakes -aka get experience- NOW versus trying to get on the job training later when food is scarce. Good luck.

  16. buckstarchaser says:

    I’ve watched this whole series a while ago and am watching it again. It’s really bothered me about the amount of work/equip involved so I’ve been searching for ideas to improve on it. I know you don’t like basic gardening and I understand why. What ‘wingz’ here describes is called the 3sisters method used by native Americans. This was an idea I wanted to run past you and then this vid looked like the perfect spot to bring it up. Seems it could reduce trouble/fert/water too. I’d like your input.

  17. trwsandford says:

    just don’t grow it near the house

  18. JonnyMuzz says:

    Scarcity is manufactured to increase profits.

  19. merginglight says:

    I’m very fortuneate in that I live in the country and have been focusing on learning to enlarge my crop area and to grow my own food without having to use manmade chemicals. If there’s a healthy way to grow food on a large scale, I’ll find it, but I will not compromise and become dependent on manmade chemicals. There are ways to do what one needs without compromising. Keeping an open mind is the first step to finding those options.

  20. ertasmasa says:

    I myself have looked into the possibilities of farming in response to a peak oil collapse. I know just the agriculture aspect would require huge amounts of work and planning. But on top of that land prices are so outragreous i could not afford it. Especially when people are out of a job and have no resources, spending $50,000 on land just is not possible. This on top of the existing nearly insurmountable agricultural challenge would make it overwhelming, property taxes as well.

  21. ertasmasa says:

    To make sure that there is enough land avialable for people for their farms and to prevent overextension of resources and environmental collapse we also need to focus on stable population levels and a zero growth society, through public education and voluntary contraception. The fact is population growth has led to scarcity and higher land prices. After north america was stolen from the natives they virtually gave away land, there was so much of it. Due to rising population, not any more.

  22. ertasmasa says:

    The fact is if economy collapsed in a big way looting would become a real problem. Many here ignore some of the real problems that lead to this, blaming it on lazines. The fact is land has been made so expensive by the speculators, many people cannot afford it right now so they cannot prepare for a collapse. Personally i believe everyone should be gauranteed 20 acres of farm land if they want to farm This and people learning basic survival skills, everyone have a garden, could stop a disaster

  23. Engineer245 says:

    In the final tally if the economy does take a dumb there will always be the many that are too lazy to work so they will take at gun point. All agra- societies or groups throughout the ages that have tryed to live piecefully have been wiped out by the ruthless killing humans at some point. This is too bad but all so true!

  24. 1984IcameandIstayed says:

    So glad I happened across your channel as I’m in the process of tearing up my lawn for a garden and need alot of tips. When things get uncontrollably bad do you think growing pot would be a good idea? It can be used for food, medicine etc.

  25. bowmasterpigo13 says:

    yer i wont to run away and live in teh wilderness so im watching all these ayy i loive this video i have like 10 kgs of seeds so im just have to work soem land and plkant it sound easy but really hard ayy

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